Smitty wrote on Mar 12, 2008 3:01 PM:
" Ethanol from corn is a scam -- as Del points out, it uses more fossil fuel than it replaces. However, ethanol from sugar works, as has been shown in Brazil. Unfortunately, the corn growers have a powerful lobby. We need a powerful sugar lobby in Washington. There are large areas of this country where more sugar could be produced (beet sugar, of course, not cane sugar). "
Del wrote on Mar 11, 2008 6:58 PM:
" I believe Mr. Zubrin writes more than he reads. It requires more than 1 gallon of fossil fuel to produce a gallon of ethanol. Ethanol reduces the miles per gallon of gasoline, so where is the great advantage If all the land in the USA were planted in corn it would only supply 12% of our energy needs. Land has been diverted from wheat planting to corn, causing the price of wheat, thus some foods to rise. The demand for corn for ethanol production has caused the price of corn to rise, causing the price of animal feed to rise, causing meat, dairy products, & eggs to rise. Every food product which uses corn and corn products (sweeteners) are on the rise. Now there is talk of raising the content of ethanol from 10% to 20%, causing gas milage to decrease further and causeing a greater demand on corn for fuel. This is an inflationary cycle creating more expensive travel, & food, at the expense of the American citizens and bringing huge profits to industries such as ADM who in turn hire lobbists to encourage the continuation of this cycle. There are better choses than corn for fuel. Just ask south America. "
John Middleton wrote on Mar 11, 2008 1:33 PM:
" ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? What Earthly reason did you have NOT to post my reply to this opinion piece?
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fuelish wrote on Mar 11, 2008 10:24 AM:
" Using food for fuel is utterly foolish and wasteful. This scam, too, will pass. "
bad at math wrote on Mar 11, 2008 6:12 AM:
" Boy, they got the bumers every where? Where do all these numbers mean? "
John Middleton wrote on Mar 11, 2008 4:41 AM:
" That opinion piece does not have enough truth in it to qualify as propaganda.
The Earth has many periods of heating and cooling since it came into being, including some ice ages. That is undeniable, and it happened before homo sapiens were on the Earth. It continues to happen in exactly the same way. It has nothing to do with man made activity on the Earth. NOTHING.
In case the man has never been outside, he should go out and look up, The red thing, which has been called the "Sun" determines the heat of the Earth, and not a grain farmer who uses oil to produce Methanol.
I don't know if the Southern published his opinion as a joke...if they didn't.Pick one statement in the OP, and I will refute it. The Southern can can get two years of an argument that their sales department can sell. :)
Funny stuff, every high school student who is into Science, debating, microboligy or heating and cooling will get lots to think about.
As a question, what's wrong with Global warming?
Who decided that was bad?
kills fish in rivers? The fertilizers contribute to the "dead zone" at the outflow of the Mississippi
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